don't talk to demagogues

merovingian · Guest

"Warning! - Some of these sites and articles come from groups with right wing views. Their factual information (eg. The Spotlight) is often entirely accurate but the spin put upon it may make articles painfully vitriolic.
One great irritation to me is racism. The assumption that because some of the world's most powerful men are Jewish bankers then all Jews are to blame, should be obvious nonsense to anyone who bothers to think it through."

http://www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm#invited

"Are those that criticise Bilderberg anti-Jewish?

Bilderberg meetings consist overwhelmingly of non-Jews, so how could any serious critic paint Bilderberg as a Jewish cabal?
"But how could anyone, the ADL or The Spotlight consider Bilderberg to be a Jewish issue? Hardly any of the Bilderbergers are Jews. This really should disqualify them from being a Jewish conspiracy." Jon Ronson, Secret Rulers of the World, The Bilderberg Group, Channel Four TV, 27Jun01.

One of the first things anyone from the 'left' anarchist, communist or socialist traditions who criticises Bilderberg encounters is the accusation of being taken in by - or even being in league with - anti-Jewish forces from the extreme right. (The expression Anti-Semitic is not very helpful, since most Jewish people in the West are not Semitic. They are Eastern European Jews not Middle Eastern Jews.)

The claim to be in league with the extreme right is one few 'lefties' who come across Bilderberg expect and even fewer can be prepared for. There certainly are hateful racist lies coming out of the extreme right, even relating to Bilderberg. But to assume that anyone who analyses the Bilderberg institution is somehow taking the same analysis is lazy reasoning, in fact it is not reasoning at all. This phenomenon is known as contamination and charted fully by Robin Ramsay at Lobster Magazine (see below) and others. See website of Jews against Zionism http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com

Fast Facts: Are critics of Bilderberg anti-Jewish?
Anyone who denegrates someone BECAUSE they are Jewish is a racist.
Anti-Semitic or Anti-Jewish?
No, it’s not just me being pedantic, the term Anti-Semitic really is more confusing than helpful. It is used by many to mean Anti-Jewish and is used by the Anti Defamation League and the mainstream press as an interchangeable term which it is not. Semitic is not a religious but a racial term identifying peoples sharing specific languages in the Middle East, West Asia and East Africa. Many modern Jews have racial origins in Eastern Europe and are therefore not Semitic, yet they are presumably just as Jewish as Semitic Jews.

The term Anti-Semitic is of little use now, here’s one reason why: since the influx of non-Semitic Jewish migrants to Israel there are more Semitic Arabs than Jews in the Middle East.

The World Bible Publishing 'Short Dictionary of Life and Peoples of Bible Times' gives the following description under the Semites entry: a group of nations, who, starting about 3000BC, appeared in Western Asia, south of modern Armenia and west of Iran. Semite nations included Babylonians, Assyrians, Syrians, Canaanites, Isrealites, Ammonites, Moabites and Edomites."
http://www.bilderberg.org/jewish.htm

anti-anti · Guest

hello everybody!

I followed this discussion and I must say that there were a lot of valid and interesting points from this merovingian dude, as well from marxist tourist. although it suddenly stopped. there were a lot of good questions from merovingian and no more answers from marxist tourist, and he being the administrator of this site... how about answering on your own site??

marxist tourist, I have one other question for you, since you say you are 100% Israel, that makes you 0% Palestine or does it not?

marxist tourist · Administrator Messages: 31

hey
a) it's not a discussion, it's all about a left wing bakunin nutthugger who watches to much discovery channel and does too much posting on indymedia. this conspiracy shit makes me sick, it is antisemitic if you like it or not.
b) why should post ? is nobody out there having thoughts on this subject ? pathetic, just like i would be the one and only. this is supposed to a be a forum and not just a keyboardwarrior vs an administrator.
c) i have a life outside this page

thanx

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